Pogues – The Sunny Side Of The Street

I’ve posted only one Pogues song before. CB brought them up and I started to listen and song after song was quality. I remember them but more for the name than the music. What a catalog they have and I’ve been listening to them almost non-stop this week. This song is so positive that it rubs off.

This song just gives off a great vibe. The Sunny Side of the Street was inspired by the band’s experiences growing up in working-class neighborhoods. They witnessed firsthand the struggles and triumphs of the people around them. They wanted to shine the light on the resilience and ability to find joy in even the most challenging circumstances.

The Pogues were formed in Ireland in 1982 by Shane MacGowan. The band reached international prominence in the 1980s and early 1990s. MacGowan left because of drinking problems and was replaced by Joe Strummer and then with Spider Stacy on vocals before breaking up in 1996. They reformed in 2001 and toured until 2014.

The song was written by Shane MacGowan and Jeremy Fier. I was released in 1990 and was on the album Hell’s Ditch. The song peaked at #23 on the Billboard Alternative Charts in 1991. The album was produced by former Clash member Joe Strummer.

On November 30…Shane MacGowan passed away. Yesterday, his coffin was being taken down the streets of Dublin pulled by a horse-drawn carriage. He was 65 years old.

The Sunny Side of the Street

Seen the carnival at Rome
Had the women, I had the booze
All that I can remember now
Is little kids without no shoes

So, I saw that train and I got on it
With a heartful of hate and a lust for vomit
Now I’m walking on the sunnyside of the street

Stepped over bodies in Bombay
Tried to make it to the U.S.A.
Ended up in Nepal
Up on the roof with nothing at all
And I knew that day
I was going to stay right where I am
On the sunnyside of the street

Been in a palace, been in a jail
I just don’t want to be reborn a snail
Just want to spend eternity right where I am
On the sunnyside of the street

As my mother wept it was then I swore
To take my life as I would a whore
I know I’m better than before
I will not be reconstructed

Just want to stay right here
The sunnyside of the street
The sunnyside of the street
The sunnyside of the street
The sunnyside of the street

Matthew Good – Hello Time Bomb

The devil’s on sugar smacks
Down at the Radio Shack
Turning shit into solid gold
Solid gold

CB sent me this link…Good sounds different and I really liked his songs. Some of the lyrics won me over to this one.

Matthew Good is an alternative musician from Burnaby…a city in British Columbia, Canada. He started with music in high school. He wrote lyrics for a folk band. He taught himself how to play guitar at 20 years old and started to play and sing with the Rodchester Kings.

In 1995 he formed The Matthew Good Band which lasted from 1995 to 2001. They released 3 EPs and 7 albums including Beautiful Midnight which peaked at #1 in Canada. This song was on that album and Hello Time Bomb peaked at #26 in Canada, #3 on the Canadian alternative charts, and #34 on Billboard’s Alternative Charts in 1999.

After the band broke up he went on to become a solo act. He has released 9 studio albums and 6 of them were in the top 10, 2 were in the top 20, and the last one during 2020 was at #49 in Canada.

Good had troubles throughout his life with medical things. One doctor said he had an ulcer and others said other things. In the mid-2000’s he was diagnosed with Bipolar and things got better for him after that. “I was so relieved to finally know what was wrong with me, and have the chance to deal with the impact a diagnosis would have on my life, before being on medications, my life went from a negative 10 to a plus 10. On medication, it’s a negative three to a plus three. I had to learn to accept that.” He gives tips for people with BiPolar disorder to manage it.

Good has been nominated for 21 Juno Awards and has won four: 2011 Rock Album of the Year for Vancouver, 2002 Video of the Year for Weapon, 2000 Best Rock Album of the Year for Beautiful Midnight, and Best Group of the Year.

Matthew Good has maintained a lukewarm relationship with the music industry and the media, often avoiding the spotlight and avoiding interviews and awards shows (he has not accepted any of his Juno awards in person). In addition to his music projects, he has become a well-known writer and blogger on politics and culture; his book, At Last There is Nothing Left to Say, was published in 2001.

Hello Time Bomb

I found me a reason
So check me tomorrow
We’ll see if I’m leaking
Push and push and push ’till it hurts

The Devil’s on roller-skates
The Devil’s on roller-skates
Down at the roller rink
Picking up chicks for me
Ones that push and push and push ’till it hurts
Push and push ’till it hurts

Dirty enough, I got me a love
And it’s so bad, it’s so bad
Dirty enough, I got me a love
And it’s so bad, it’s so bad

Life’s for the living
So check me tomorrow
We’ll see if I’m kidding
Push and push and push ’till it hurts

Did it on Ritalin
I got me some good grades
Now I work me the night shift, where I
Pull and pull and pull ’till it hurts
Pull and pull ’till it hurts

Dirty enough, I got me a love
And it’s so bad, it’s so bad
Dirty enough, I got me a love
And it’s so bad, it’s so bad
Hello, time bomb, I’m ready to go off
Hello, time bomb, I’m ready to go off

Hahahaha

If life’s for the livid
Check me tomorrow
We’ll see if I’m emperor

The devil’s on sugar smacks
Down at the Radio Shack
Turning shit into solid gold
Solid gold

Dirty enough, I got me a love
And it’s so bad, it’s so bad
Dirty enough, I got me a love
And it’s so bad, it’s so bad
Hello, time bomb, I’m ready to go off
Hello, time bomb, I’m ready to go
Ready to go off

54-40 – I Go Blind

Deke brought this band up the other day and I started to listen to their songs. Deke likes a lot of harder bands so I was expecting screaming guitars but this band is close to Sloan to me or power pop…which yea…I kinda like!

The band was formed in the small border town of Tsawwassen, BC. Musically they were influenced by British invasion and post-punk and American roots and punk rock. They got their name from a reference to a US political slogan from the 1840s (“Fifty-four forty or Fight!”) that called for the American annexation of what is now British Columbia.

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The band started in 1978 when Neil Osborne and Brad Merritt met in Sought Delta High School in Tsawwassen, British Columbia. They released their first album in 1984  called Set The Fire and their second album in 1986 was a self-titled album also called The Green Album. That is the album this song is on.

The album 54-40 peaked at #91 on the Canadian Album Charts in 1986.

The song was covered by Hootie and the Blowfish and did well on the charts in 1996-97. It peaked at #13 in Canada, #2 on the US Adult Top 40, and #22 on the US Adult Contemporary in 1996-97.

I Go Blind

Every time I look at you I go blind
Every time I look at you I go blind
Every time I look at you I go blind
Every time I look at you I go blind

In the morning, I get up
And I try to feel alive but I can’t
Every time I look at you I go blind
I don’t know what it is
Something in me just won’t give it a chance

I think it’s that I feel more confused by the deal
Love has shown me
Little child, did you know that there’s a light
And it’s gonna shine right through your eyes
What do you think that life is like?
Every time I look at you I go blind
I go blind

Somewhere over there
There’s a purpose, there’s a care for free
In me there’s nobody
No one planned, no one stand to be free
I think it’s that because I have seen all the fuss
And it’s no big deal
No big deal

Hold me, hold me
‘Cause I wanna get higher and higher
Higher than
Hold me hold me
‘Cause I wanna get higher and higher
Higher than

Kathleen Edwards – I Make The Dough, You Get The Glory

You’re cool and cred like Fogerty
I’m Elvis Presley in the seventies
You’re Chateauneuf, I’m Yellow Label
You’re the buffet I’m just the table

This was recommended by a former blogger who reached out to me and wanted me to hear this song. I knew I had seen or heard of her somewhere. I asked Randy and sure enough, he posted a song called Six O’Clock News with her last June. I like her voice and her overall sound. After I finished this post…I must have listened to this around 8-9 times. It will stay in my rotation.

The song and Edwards were very likable on the first listen and now I’m hooked on it. Fun video also. Kathleen Edwards is a Canadian musician who released her first album in 2003. She was influenced by Bob Dylan, Neil Young, and Tom Petty growing up.

She also worked with John Doe, of the punk rock band X, on his solo album A Year in the Wilderness. She sings on three tracks.

This song was written in honor of fellow Canadian musician Jim Bryson, who made contributions to Edwards’ first two albums and also toured with her. In this song, she is self-deprecatingly suggesting in the song that her own success was obscuring Bryson’s talents.

I like some of the lyrics in this one. You’re cool and cred like Fogerty, I’m Elvis Presley in the seventiesYou’re Chateauneuf, I’m Yellow  Label…You’re the buffet I’m just the table. And my favorite…a hockey reference You’re the Great One, I’m Marty McSorley. The Great One of course is Wayne Gretzky…Marty McSorley was a hockey player who was charged with assault and suspended by the NHL for the remainder of the 1999–2000 season and the playoffs, missing 23 games when he swung his stick and hit Donald Brashear in the head. After serving a full year he never would play in the NHL again. You can see him in the video…the big guy whom Edwards is hugging.

She has released 5 albums since 2003 and her last one was in 2020 called Total Freedom. Her 2012 album Voyageur hit the top 40 in America. In 2003 Rolling Stone declared her one of the year’s most promising new acts.

This song was on her 2008 album Asking For Flowers. The album peaked at #14 on the Canadian Album Charts, #102 on the Billboard Album Charts, and #1 on the Billboard Heatseekers Charts.

The video features Kathleen Edwards and her band playing against Blue Rodeo singer Jim Cuddy and former NHL-ers, Paul Coffey and Brad Dalgarno for a lopsided game of shinny. Marty McSorley joins Edwards team and the video also features sportscaster Dave Hodge.

It’s hard not to like her. One of her songs is called “One More Song The Radio Won’t Like.”

I Make The Dough, But You Get The Glory

Blazing a trail to the southern cities
From the streets of our hometown
Basement bars we played from the heart
In the company of our friends

If I write down these memories
That I have saved away
Photographs of the years that passed
Inside my little brain

You’re cool and cred like Fogerty
I’m Elvis Presley in the 70’s
You’re Chateauneuf, I’m Yellow Label
You’re the buffet I’m just the table
I’m a Ford Tempo you’re a Maserati
You’re the Great One, I’m Marty McSorley
You’re the Concorde, I’m economy
I make the dough but you get the glory

Big fish small pond and some cover songs
We sang along the way
We used to midnight run to the Vesta Lunch
Cheeseburgers and chocolate shakes
Once I got drunk with Jeff
I told him I was in love with you
But I love you like a brother
So at least half of it was true

You’re cool and cred like Fogerty
I’m Elvis Presley in the seventies
You’re Chateauneuf, I’m Yellow Label
You’re the buffet I’m just the table
I’m a Dodge Fargo, you’re a Lamborghini
You’re the Great One, I’m Marty Mcsorley
You’re the Concorde, I’m economy
I make the dough, but you get the glory

If I write down these memories
That I have saved away
Photographs of the years that passed
Inside my little brain

I’m sure it’s been said in the finer print
You make me look legitimate
Heavy rotation on the CBC
Whatever in hell that really means
You’re cool and cred like Fogerty
I’m Elvis Presley in the 70’s
You’re the Concorde I’m economy
I make the dough, but you get the glory

Mink DeVille – Spanish Stroll

While talking to my friends CB and Paul…they bring up Mink Deville a lot so I decided to go check them out. I’ve heard of some of their music but I wanted more so I spent a few hours listening…I see why they bring them up…they are different and bring a lot to the table.

Mink DeVille was formed in 1974 in San Francisco but they are known for their association with punk bands at the New York club CBGB. They would go on to record six albums and Willy DeVille made 10 albums solo. The band lasted until 1986.

When I post a song of a more unknown artist to most of my readers…I try to find a song that is more commercial…maybe not their best song but a “radio-friendly” song to get people digging more. This one is radio-friendly and has a Lou Reed feel. I really like this band’s music…love the lyrics to this.

The song “Spanish Stroll” by Mink DeVille is an iconic track from their debut album, released in 1977. It’s very New York and it describes navigating around in urban life to escape the mundane and ordinary. They blend genres, I can hear Latin and punk elements, which helped propel this track into the mainstream. I can also hear some Springsteen and even Mellencamp on some of their songs.

This was on their debut album Cabretta. It peaked at #186 on the Billboard Album charts. The song Spanish Stroll peaked at #20 in the UK in 1977. The song was written by the lead singer Willy DeVille.

I learned a lot by reading Paul’s reviews of their albums on his site. He has a wide variety of album reviews to look at…and that is an understatement.

Bob Dylan on how Willy DeVille should be in the Hall of Fame: “(DeVille) stood out, his voice and presentation ought to have gotten him in there by now.”

Peter Wolf:  “He had all the roots of music that I love and had this whole street thing of R&B – just the whole gestalt … He was just a tremendous talent; a true artist in the sense that he never compromised. He had a special vision and remained true to it.”

Willy DeVille: “We were sitting around talking of names, and some of them were really rude, and I was saying, guys we can’t do that. Then one of the guys said how about Mink DeVille? There can’t be anything cooler than a fur lined Cadillac can there? “What could be more pimp than a mink Cadillac? In an impressionistic sort of way.” 

Piano player Kenny Margolis:  “I don’t think the American public had a chance to experience him because in America at that time you had MTV telling you what to like. Europe had not had MTV at that point and they were very open to different music.”

Spanish Stroll

Hey Mr. Jim I can see the shape you’re in
Finger on your eyebrow
And left hand on your hip
Thinking that you’re such a lady killer
Think you’re so slick!
Alright

Brother Johnny, he caught a plane and he got on it
Now he’s a razor in the wind
And he got a pistol in his pocket
They say the man is crazy on the West Coast
Lord there ain’t no doubt about it!
Well allright

Sister Sue tell me baby what are we gonna do
She said take two candles,
And then you burn them out
Make a paper boat,light it and…. send it out
send it out now..

Spanish Stroll
Spanish Stroll
Spanish Stroll

Hey Rosita! Donde vas con mi carro Rosita?
tu sabes que te quiero
pero ti me quitas todo
ya te robasta mi television y mi radio
y ahora quiere llevarse mi carro
no me haga asi, rosita
ven aqui
ehi, estese aqui al lado rosita
Spanish Stroll

Mira aqui!

Hey Johny! Yeah, tenth street Johny
We’ve been looking for you man
Everybody told me you had moved uptown
Hey! you wanna go for a ride
I’m going uptown myself
For what?

Yeah, ain’t it right?
Yeah, one time for Tito Puente, one time
Are you ready?
Yeah, of course we cannot leave out, Mr Ray Baretto
Are you ready?Are you ready?Are you ready?

Guided By Voices – Chasing Heather Crazy

I hope everyone is having a fantastic Friday. I posted a song by this band a year or so ago. I really liked their sound and songs but after posting it I got distracted by something else. CB brought this band up to me recently and I returned to them. This song is a very good power pop song. You have some power and jangle…the recipe for good power pop…this band can dish it out.

Guided By Voices was formed in Dayton, Ohio, United States in 1983. The band’s lineup has changed several times throughout the band’s history, with its only constant member being singer/songwriter Bob Pollard. They are still together and touring… Bob Pollard is with the current lineup.

Bob Pollard is terribly prolific. They have had 37 studio albums, 12 Compilation albums, 19 EPs, 39 singles, 2 live albums, and 2 books! On top of that, they have appeared on several soundtracks including Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Crime and Punishment, Scrubs, and many more. They also counted Rik Ocasek as one of their producers.

Their first EP came out in 1986 and their first LP came out in 1987. They have released 15 albums since 2016.

Chasing Heather Crazy was released in 2001 on the Isolation Drills album. The album peaked at #6 on the Heat Seekers Charts, #8 on the Indie charts, and #168 on the Billboard Album Charts.

Review by Allmusic Tom Maginnis: “Chasing Heather Crazy” is a blissed-out rocker of the sort that showcases Robert Pollard’s sharp pop songcraft skills. His infectious melody is fully fleshed out here, with big clean studio production miles removed from the scrappy lo-fi quality of past efforts, such as Bee Thousand, which first brought Guided By Voices to the attention of the mainstream press and independent rock audiences alike. Pollard also seems more comfortable delving into personal matters, addressing his lyrics with a directness that was seldom found on earlier works, which also helps bring a margin of intimacy that could otherwise be lost in the slickness of the recording. 

Chasing Heather Crazy

Trailing off the likes of it
She likes it when it grows
Sending out a candidate
She’s sinking her foes
Peaking out then leveling
Wherever it goes

And her mother will greet you
And a river will reach you
Breaking out to make you slave again

Chasing Heather crazy
Chasing Heather crazy
Making sure that all the world is coming down
All the world is coming down on her
Anywhere I want to
And if you want to come too
We’ll go down where
All the girls are stumblin’ round
All the world is crumbling down around her

Staring out from otherworldly windows painted red
Doesn’t have to listen to the voices in your head
That’s a different lie
Do you remember what was said?

And her mother will greet you
And a river will reach you
Breaking out to make you slave again

Chasing Heather crazy
Chasing Heather crazy
Making sure that all the world is coming down
All the world is coming down on her
Anywhere I want to
And if you want to come too
We’ll go down where
All the girls are stumblin’ round
All the world is crumbling down around her

Around her
Around her
Around her
Around her

Replacements – Favorite Thing

Pure rock and roll from the 1980s. One of the few who was producing raw rock at that time. I love the riff that Bob Stinson played in this song. Paul Westerberg remembered: “Bob started on the wrong note so he bent it [up] to make it fit.”

Let It Be was the third full album by the band’s original lineup: lead singer and songwriter Paul Westerberg, guitarist Bob Stinson, bassist Tommy Stinson, and drummer Chris Mars.

This was their last album on the small label Twin Tone Records and one of their best. The name of the album was Let It Be and it has a typical Replacements story. In the spring of 1984 the band was en route to a gig in Madison when inspiration struck. “We were riding around . . . kicking around silly album names and we thought, ‘The next song that comes on the radio, we’ll name it after that,’” said Westerberg.

Just then…the sound of Paul McCartney’s voice came out through the speakers: “When I find myself in times of trouble . . . ” It was fate… Let It Be would be the title of The Replacements’ new album.

This song is credited to all of the members of the band.

Paul Westerberg: We were supposed to stop, and I guess somebody didn’t stop, so we said, ‘Take it down to hell after the lead’—we weren’t sure what to do, you can hear me yell, ‘C!’ and everybody ended back on the C chord. It was a lucky guess. Then Chris started slowing it down. He was thinking, Aw, fuck this, let’s end it. Then we picked it back up. Later we overdubbed the piano and finger snaps.“Bob started on the wrong note so he bent it [up] to make it fit.”

Favorite Thing

Yeah!

Yeah, kid, it’s a really hipWith plenty of flash and you know itYeah, dad, you’re rocking real badDon’t break your neck when you fall down laughingDonna, wanna, Donna

Yeah, I know I look like hellI smoke and I drink and I’m feeling swellYeah, I hear you think it’s weirdBut I don’t give a single shit

Yeah, man, it’s a-hip, you know what I’m sayingIt’s a-hip, you know what I’m sayingAnd I hear itMy heart aches, it’s a-looking for a dollyLooking for a dolly, can’t you hear itWant to be something, want to be anything

Yeah, I know I feel this wayBut I ain’t gonna never changeYeah, I hear, I think, I knowRock don’t give a shit, you know

You’re my favorite thingYou’re my favorite thingBar nothing

You’re my favorite thingYou’re my favorite thingYou’re my favorite thingYou’re my, you’re my, you’re my, you’re myThing, thing,Thing, thing,Thing, thing, once in a whileThing, thing,Thing, thing,Thing, thing, once in a whileThing, thing, thingThing, thing, thingThing, thing, once in a while

Hüsker Dü

I want to thank Dave from A Sound Day. Dave will explain what is happening in the first paragraph. I’ve always wanted to do a post on Husker Du but didn’t know where to start. So Dave wrote this post and I wrote a post for him on The Replacements that he is posting today. The two bands are from the same music scene in Minneapolis and knew each other well.

“Not long after Athens and sometime before Seattle, the epicenter of the American underground rock scene was Minneapolis.” So wrote Magnet magazine. That time was the mid-to-late-’80s, and at the forefront of that was two angry bands – Husker Du and the Replacements. Both had huge cult followings and flirted with bigtime success but neither really broke through in a big way. But each influenced later bands and are widely respected. Now the odd thing is my friend Max and I have some similar musical tastes but each of us like one of those bands and are close to oblivious to the other. So he suggested we write a little for each other’s sites about “our” bands. For me, that was Husker Du.

I’m guessing there’s a good chance that you’ve heard of Husker Du. But a much more limited chance you’ve heard them or know their music. That’s understandable. At home in the U.S., they’ve never had a top 40 single nor a platinum album. But they paved the way for bands you might have heard of, like Nirvana, Soundgarden and the Foo Fighters.

First the name. Husker Du is actually Norwegian for “Do you remember?” and it was the name of a board game and also a European TV game show. Someone in the band knew of it and inserted it into one of their songs in progress as a kind of placeholder for lyrics and it ended up sticking as the band name. They added “umlauts” – those dots – over the “u”s in the name to make it seem more menacing.

They were a power trio, formed in 1979 by guitarist/singer Bob Mould , bassist Greg Norton and his mustache, and drummer/singer Grant Hart. With a similar origin to R.E.M., they formed by way of a mix of college students and record stores. R.E.M.’s college guys met Peter Buck in a record store; Husker Du had Bob Mould who was a college student who hung around a record store in the Twin cities where Grant Hart worked and Greg Norton (a friend of Hart’s at the time) hung around. Appropriately, Peter Buck was a fan of Husker Du’s and noted “I played with Husker Du several times and hung out with them.”  When they started the band they were all 20 or younger.

Husker Du was initially loud, fast, angry, and rather anti-social. And did I mention very loud? “Fueled by testosterone, alcohol, boredom, anger at the government…” Mould would later say. Probably a lot of amphetamines or speed too, he might have added.  Anyone who’s ever had the misfortu… err, “opportunity”… to be around fans of thrash metal or hardcore punk knows there is no shortage at all of bands who can turn the amps up to 11, shout nonsensical lyrics, and generally rage noisily like a late night thunderstorm.  Ones that can do that while actually making music, songs that have melody and make sense, are much rarer. And that’s what Husker Du did. I think Max here once made a great point – he liked Howard Jones because you could strip away the production and layered synthesizers of his ’80s new wave and you’d still be left with real songs that had merit. So too Husker; many of their songs could be taken down to an acoustic guitar and singer and still hold their own as real songs. That was part of their appeal to me.

They played almost nightly in the early-’80s and soon got signed to the small, indie SST label owned by underground punkers Black Flag. They put out their first record in 1982. By 1984, they’d grown tired of conventional thrash music and according to Mould wanted to do something new that “is going to be beyond the whole idea of ‘punk rock’ or whatever.” The result was Zen Arcade, a record Rolling Stone declared “the closest hardcore will ever get to opera” and then New Day Rising and Flip Your Wig and its single “Makes no sense at All.” The album hit #1 on the influential CMJ record chart – sort of a college rock list in the States – and on the British indie charts and the single #2 on the Indie rock charts over there. But big-time success eluded them,  even when they showed their sense of humor and did a cover of “Love is All Around”, parodying the opening of another Minneapolis landmark, the Mary Tyler Moore Show. What it did though was start a bidding war for their services among the major labels.  They ended up signing with Warner Bros. in late ’85, the first real truly alt-rock band to do so, because Warner agreed to give them creative freedom and the ability to produce their own records. This played a part in R.E.M.’s decision to choose Warner a couple of years later also and probably changed the way many “underground” bands looked at the huge multi-nats thereafter.  Some fans accused them of selling out, but the group felt they had hit a “ceiling” with SST; they couldn’t press enough records to meet demand nor promote their acts to get them radio play or prestige billing in concert. Even though they didn’t hit the mega-stardom levels some thought, it was a good move for Husker Du. Grant Hart had to get a loan at his mom’s credit union to pay for the first HD record. But, as Mould would point out Warner “always paid on time” and after signing with them “we all bought houses. Modest houses.”

Their first WB album was Candy Apple Grey, which had the single “Don’t Want to Know If You’re Lonely”. It got good reviews and sold better than the predecessors (which were rumored to have sold in the neighborhood of 5000 copies in the U.S., in some cases) . It got them more notice on college stations and even occasionally on MTV.  But to me, their crowning achievement was Warehouse : Stories and Songs, which came out in 1987. It was a sprawling 20-song double LP (but single CD), and like their others self-produced and recorded in Minnesota.

It was a continuing evolution for them. As Allmusic put it, in their review which gave it a perfect 5-stars, it was “cleaner and more produced” than anything they’d done before but “they never sound like they are selling out.”  It was also the one that the alt-rock station that I listened to much of the time in the late-’80s, CFNY Toronto, latched onto. It blew me away. There was a lot of mainstream “heavy metal” around, or its imitation, at the time from Motley Crue to Bon Jovi, but nothing on air sounded like these short, high-powered, angst-filled rockers that would leave the guitars and amps of a Def Leppard or Posion shaking in their boots. But they were strangely likable too. Clearly, they’d heard a Beatles or Byrds or Fleetwood Mac record in their time and they carried over a bit of that melodic craftmanship.

Eleven of the 20 were written by Bob Mould, and the other nine, Grant Hart. Which points to an underlying issue – the band was breaking up by then, mostly due to personality problems. Norton had just gotten married and the band’s manager commit suicide. But Mould and Hart had grown to despise each other. They were competitive and jealous (each wanted more of the writing credits than the other) of one another. Both were gay, which was unusual in that style of music but would be no issue except it was also widely rumored, but never confirmed, that they had been a couple who’d broken up by Warehouse. Mould has said “I’ve never talked about Grant’s situation and I never will. I think that’s personal.” More widely confirmed is that they were going in different directions in lifestyle. Mould was quitting drugs and had all but given up drinking, meanwhile, Hart was battling heroin addiction with limited success and refusing to go to the rehab his bandmates wanted him to attend. This made him less than reliable as a player in gigs. In the end, the band cut short their tour for this album and officially broke up in early-’88.

But they left us with this opus. Agreed, a bit overblown (Mould has said since it should have been a single LP instead) with some fantastic, angsty rock tunes like “Bed of Nails”, “She Floated Away”, a Grant Hart tune allmusic calls a “sea shanty” that always appealed to me and the very-near hit “Could You Be the One?”. That two-and-a-half-minute bit of Flying V guitar angst and nervousness over a relationship’s direction jumped out of the speakers at me and got a good amount of play on both MTV and Canada’s Much Music, as well as influencing later videos by their use of colored screens and so forth.

The album only barely hit the British top 100 and peaked at #117 on Billboard at home but remains one of the best ’80s guitar-rock albums and one that caught some other musicians’ ears. Kurt Cobain listed them as one of his favorite bands and his one-time bandmate, Dave Grohl? Well, he says “I was a huge Husker Du fan and obviously Bob Mould’s music has influenced the way I write music and play guitar. A lot of what I do comes from Bob.”

Bob Mould has been the one who has carried on and had success in music post-Husker. He briefly had the underrated power pop band Sugar (hmm, another topic for Power Pop blog, Max?) and has put out numerous solo albums ranging from acoustic guitar balladry to electronica to raging neo-punk. Definitely, a career worth looking into now and again. Greg Norton quit to become a restauranteur and chef, while Hart played in some indie bands and segued into visual arts quite a bit before sadly passing away of cancer and hepatitis in 2017.

Thanks, Max for letting me drone on and talk a bit about an American band I think deserves more attention than they got.

Cheap Trick – In The Street ….Under the Covers Tuesday

Wish we hadA joint so bad

I’m a huge Cheap Trick fan but when I heard this song as the theme to That 70s Show… I just asked myself why? Why not use the original version of the song? That’s not a dig at Cheap Trick…they did fine with it but it was unnecessary.  The show later covered a Big Star song in an episode…the haunting song Thirteen. The band had lost out on stardom in the early seventies and now many people really like the theme song but have no clue who wrote it. In a way though…unfortunately, that fits Big Star perfectly.

In the first season, the theme song was done by Todd Griffin. It’s a close copy of the original soundwise but with different lyrics by Ben Vaughn. The rest of the show’s seasons was replaced by the Cheap Trick version. The only reason I can think of not using Big Star is they needed an edited version of the song and felt they had to change the song’s lyrics although the lyrics would have fit the show. Cheap Trick’s version is very good of course because it’s Cheap Trick…but it would have been nice to hear the original. Many people think that Cheap Trick wrote the song.

Big Star: #1 Record LP - Listen Records

Chris Bell and Alex Chilton are credited with writing the song. In 2000, Chilton confirmed that he was paid $70 in royalties each time the show aired, an amount he thought ironic, given the show’s title. The song was originally on their debut album #1 Record.

Recently I watched some performances they did on the Leno show later on when Alex Chilton and Jody Stephens reformed the band with two members of the Posies. The introduction made me do a double take…“Big Star…the missing link between the Beatles and The Replacements.”  How could I not like that? Three of my favorite bands right there.

The #1 album was hailed by critics and got radio play when released. The feedback from people who heard it was very positive. There was one problem though. They signed with Stax Records which normally didn’t deal with pop and rock bands. They weren’t prepared to promote them and the biggest problem was there was no distribution. People started to go to record shops to buy it but there were no Big Star albums there. Stax was in financial trouble as well. They carried on for three albums but with no commercial breakthrough…although bands like Cheap Trick, The Replacements, R.E.M., KISS, and others all say they were heavily influenced by them.

Jody Stephens drummer of Big Star: “I don’t know if the general population even knows that Big Star had anything to do with it.”

Mike Mills of REM: “I heard the first two records first, Radio City and #1 Record, I just thought they were perfect. If I could make records, that would be the sort of records I would make. The third one took me a bit longer to get into, but it does reward repeated listening. What Big Star was doing made sense to me.”

The Todd Griffin version

The Cheap Trick version

The Orginal

In The Street

Hanging out, down the streetThe same old thing we did last weekNot a thing to doBut talk to you

Steal your car, and bring it downPick me up, we’ll drive aroundWish we hadA joint so bad

Pass the street lightOut past midnight

Ahh

Hanging out, down the streetThe same old thing we did last weekNot a thing to doBut talk to you

Hoodoo Gurus – I Want You Back ….Power Pop Friday

I’ve almost written this song up on numerous occasions so I thought I would finish it because it’s been in my drafts for a while. Great power pop from this band.

The Hoodoo Gurus are an Australian rock band combining elements of power pop,  Beatleesque harmonies, psychedelia, and grungy garage rock. Guitarists Dave Faulkner, Rod Radalj, and Kimble Rendall were joined by drummer James Baker when the band formed in Sydney in 1981.

I Want You Back” was the final single to be released for the band’s debut album, Stoneage Romeos. The band’s debut Stoneage Romeos, full of garage punk songs and pop references, was named Australian Debut Album of the Year and was released in America where it stayed at number 1 in the Alternative / College charts for 7 weeks, becoming one of the most played albums for the year on the college network. Their next two albums also reached #1 on the Alternative College charts.

This song was played alongside The Replacements, R.E.M., and other alternative bands at the time throughout America. They were not well known to the masses here but in Australia they were huge. In 2007 were inducted into the Australian Recording Industry Association (ARIA) Hall of Fame.

They have released 10 studio albums and the last one, Chariot of the Gods, was released last year in 2022.

I Want You  Back

I can still recall the time
She said she was always mine
Then she left as people do
And forget what we’ve been through

It’s not that she’s gone away, yeah
It’s the things I hear that she has got to say
About me and about my friends
When we, we’ve got no defense

That’s her, I’ll never believe her again
She might have deceived all my friends
I know they will see in the end
What it all means when she says, yeah

(Ah, ah) I want you back
(Ah, ah) I want you back
I, I, I want you
She says (she says)
She says (she says)
She says (she says)
She says, yeah, yeah

But what’s worse, she thinks it’s true
But that’s just her, she always was a little bit confused, and
She’s not worth the time I had to lose

That’s her, I’ll never believe her again
She might have deceived my friends
I know they’ll see what it means when she says, yeah

(Ah, ah) I want you back
(Ah, ah) I want you back
I, I, I want you
She says (she says)
She says (she says)
She says (she says)
She says

She says (ah, ah)
She says (ah, ah)
I want you back
She says (ah, ah)
She says (ah, ah)
I want you and only you (ah, ah)

She says (she says)
She says (she says)
She says (she says)
She says

Blue Rodeo – Til I Am Myself Again ….Power Pop Friday

Happy Friday to you all! Today and Saturday I will be out of town but I will keep checking when I can.

This song could fit into different categories…country, country-rock, and power pop. It has a touch of the Byrds in this because of the 12-string Rickenbacker sound. Its melody is the reason that I like this one so much. This one (and a Sloan song) was going to go in Canadian Week but I ran out of days.

Blue Rodeo is a Canadian country rock band formed in 1984 in Toronto. Jim Cuddy and Greg Keelor, have been friends since high school, having both attended North Toronto Collegiate Institute.

Their record company did try to break into America because they hired Danny Goldberg as their US manager. Danny Goldberg was involved in some giant bands. He got his start in the 1970s with Led Zeppelin and later on, went to The Allman Brothers and then to Nirvana. Unfortunately, Goldberg left after the Casino album was released. He didn’t end up having much to do with the band according to Jim Cuddy.

This song was on their album Casino and it was released in 1990. The song peaked at #3 in Canada, #1 in the Canadian Country Charts, and #2 in the Canadian Adult Contemporary Charts. The song was on the Casino album released in 1991. The album peaked at #6 in Canada. The song was written by Jim Cuddy and Greg Keelor. Cuddy and Keelor are the two main singer/songwriters in the band.

They got Pete Anderson to produce the album. Anderson produced Dwight Yoakam, Roy Orbison, Jackson Browne, Buck Owens, K.D. Lang, and Lucinda Williams. He took the approach to Blue Rodeo as if they were recording 10 singles. He said their songs were entirely too long at that point and the band worked to tidy the songs up to under 4 minutes as you can see in the quote below.

Pete Anderson: They loved to jam, but the songs were way too long. They were ahead of bands like Phish and The String Cheese Incident. They were not a jam band per say, but they were on the front-end of that jam-band world. Those bands are not on the radio. A programmer looks at the back of the record and sees songs that are over four minutes and they will not play those songs unless it is hippy radio. We were going for a three-minute and 20-second consciousness for this record.

Jim Cuddy: “That was a very tumultuous time. Our manager [Danny Goldberg] quit right when we had finished recording; he really never had anything to do with us. That was a lesson learned. We did not make that record to break into the U.S. market or cater it for radio. That idea was imposed on us. We thought all our records would be accessible in the States. We made Casino based on records we liked such as Dwight Yoakam’s Guitars, Cadillacs, Etc. Etc. That was a guy Anderson worked with. We wanted to sound like that sonically and artistically. Pete came up before we went to L.A., made extensive notes, and shared them with us. We did some demos on an eight-track machine in our studio on Sorauren Avenue. Those demos are interesting to go back and listen to now. For example, ‘What Am I Doing Here.’ I remember Pete cut out one of the bridges in that song. I thought that was a great suggestion. We never were good with self-editing.

Bass Player Bazil Donovan: “That’s one of Jim (Cuddy’s) songs that came out of the time when we first toured the States and we were gone so long, that we became disconnected with reality. We spent so much time on a bus, in a plane or going to a gig somewhere, and we were new to all of that. It took its toll on us, we weren’t taking care of ourselves and we were probably drinking too much, and on the long road depression sets in. The song captures that, about how you can lose your spirit. We had spent like a whole year on the road. It’s funny how a dark experience can result in a great song. People dance to it like it’s a happy rocker, but the lyrics remind me of that dark time.”

Bazil Donovan:  “Pete had a concept. I remember one night we went to eat at El Pollo Loco and he said to us, ‘I want to make a record with you guys that has 10 singles on it. I don’t want to make stuff that is not going to get played. I don’t care if you have one arty tune that is an album track. My idea is to make hit songs.’ Listen to that record today and you can hear that. They are all three-minute pop-rock hits, which Pete was very good at. Some of our biggest songs came out of that record. I learned a lot from him. Before that, I didn’t know a lot about arranging. After I watched Pete work with arrangements it opened up the door for me and I thought about arranging myself. A lot of the stuff I learned there I have applied to stuff I’ve done since.”

Til I Am Myself Again

I want to know where
my confidence went
one day it all disappeared
and I’m lying in a hotel room
miles away
voices next door in my ear

Daytime’s a drag
nighttime’s worse
hope that I can get home soon
but the half-finished bottles of inspiration
lie like ghosts in my room

I wanna go
I know I can’t stay
but I don’t want to run
feeling this way
til I am myself
til I am myself
til I am myself again
There’s a seat on the corner
I keep every night
wait til the evening begins
I feel like a stranger
from another world
but at least I’m living again

There are nights
full of anger
words that are thrown
tempers that are shattered and thin
but the moments of magic
are just too short
they’re over before they begin

I know it’s time
one big step
I can’t go
I’m not ready yet
til I am myself
til I am myself
til I am myself again
I had a dream
that my house was on fire
people laughed while it burned
I tried to run but my legs were numb
I had to wait til the feeling returned

I don’t need a doctor
to figure it out
I know what’s passing me by
when I look in the mirror
sometimes I see
traces of some other guy

I wanna go
I know I can’t stay
but I don’t want to run
feeling this way
til I am myself
til I am myself
til I am myself again

Tragically Hip – New Orleans is Sinking ….Canadian Week

I’m just now really listening to this band and I’m liking a lot of what I’m hearing. This song takes on a new meaning after Katrina but this song was released in 1989. Whenever I post something about a band that I don’t know much about…I usually go with their most popular song to start off. I posted Ahead By A Century, and people responded. I like this one more…it has some thump to it.

I liked this one with a first listen. I love the relentless guitar riff that starts this off.  The song seems to be recalling a past experience in the city, and the lyrics describe a sense of nostalgia and appreciation for everything New Orleans has to offer…including its spirit. The song is lamenting the changing times, and expressing his desire to remain connected to its rich history and traditions.

The song was on their debut album Up To Here released in 1989. The album did well in Canada peaking at #9 and #170 on the Billboard 100. They released 13 studio albums and this is the worse showing of all the albums on the Canadian charts. Nine of their albums peaked at #1, two of them at #2, and one of them at #3. The song peaked at #1 on the Canadian RPM magazine Charts, #70 on the Canadian Singles Charts, and #30 on the Billboard Main Rock Charts in 1989. The song was credited to the band.

To show the disparity between the band’s fortunes in America and Canada. I read that a fan was traveling through upstate New York and passed a small roadside club that said “Tonight: The Tragically Hip” and he turned around and saw them in the small club. In Canada at the time were filling stadiums and now they got a chance to see them close up. A difference a few miles can make.

The Tragically Hip is an institution in Canada, and still something of a cult band everywhere else…and I love cult bands such as Big Star and The Replacements.

Deke told me about the live album The Tragically Hip Live At The Rox May 3, 91 and it is great…a great sound and the band was really tight that night. No video of them but it’s worth a listen to the video below this.

New Orleans Is Sinking

Bourbon blues on the street, loose and complete
Under skies all smoky blue-green
I can’t forsake a Dixie dead-shake
So we danced the sidewalk clean
My memory is muddy, what’s this river that I’m in?
New Orleans is sinking man, and I don’t wanna swim

Colonel Tom, what’s wrong? What’s going on?
Can’t tie yourself up for a deal
He said “hey north you’re south shut your big mouth,
You gotta do what you feel is real”
Ain’t got no picture postcards, ain’t got no souvenirs
My baby, she don’t know me when I’m thinking ’bout those years

Pale as a light bulb hanging on a wire
Sucking up to someone just to stoke the fire
Picking out the highlights of the scenery
Saw a little cloud that looked a little like me

I have my hands in the river
My feet back up on the banks
Looked up to the Lord above
And said, hey man thanks
Sometimes I feel so good I gotta scream
She said Gordie baby I know exactly what you mean
She said, she said, I swear to God she said

My memory is muddy, what’s this river that I’m in?
New Orleans is sinking man and I don’t wanna swim
Swim

Big Star – Mod Lang …. Power Pop Friday

A song by the band Big Star. This song was on Radio City and released in 1974…their second album and follow-up to their debut…Big Star #1 Record.  Although Chris Bell had quit the band after the release of #1 Record.

After the failure of their first album, singer/songwriter guitar player Chris Bell quit Big Star. Alex Chilton didn’t know if Big Star was going to make another album. He continued making demos because he could always do a solo album. The two other members, drummer Jody Stephens and bass player Andy Hummel weren’t sure either what was going to happen. They had talked about ending the band.

Worn Frets

Their record company Ardent was under the Stax umbrella. They sent out invitations to all of the major rock journalists of the day in 1973. They invited them to Memphis to see Ardent’s roster of bands but most of all Big Star. The rock writers loved Big Star. Many legendary writers were there including Lester Bangs. They played at Lafayette’s Music Room.

Radio City is not as polished as their debut album but it’s just as good and many say better. Chilton remained the constant variable that made the band’s music soar. His September Gurls is among the band’s finest songs and one of the prototypical power pop songs.

This song was the B side to one of their most famous songs, September Gurls. They released 3 studio albums in the seventies. All three are in Rolling Stone’s top 500 albums of all time. For a band that never charted a record that isn’t too bad. When their albums were finally discovered by later bands, they influenced many artists such as The Replacements, REM, The Cars, Cheap Trick, Sloan, Matthew Sweet, KISS, Wilco, Gin Blossoms, and many more. They influenced alternative rock of the 80s and 90s and continue to this day.

Big Star did returned in 1993 with a new lineup when guitarist Jon Auer and bassist Ken Stringfellow joined Chilton and Stephens. Auer and Stringfellow remained members of the Posies. In 2005 the reformed band released their last album called In Space.

Whenever I write about this band, I always have to stop myself from gushing about them. Was it the mystique of them? Was it the coolness factor of liking a band that not many people know? No, and no. It’s about the music. Mystique and coolness wear off and all you are left with is the music…We are fortunate to have 3 albums by the original Big Star to enjoy.

Drummer Jody Stephens“All of a sudden I’m playing with these guys that can write songs that are as engaging to me as the people I’d grown up listening to, so I felt incredibly lucky.” 

Alex Chilton: “I really loved the mid-’60s British pop music, all two and a half minutes long, really appealing songs. So I’ve always aspired to that same format, that’s what I like.”

Mod Lang

I can’t be satisfied
What you want me to do?
And so I moan
Had to leave my home

Love my girl, oh yeah
She got to save my soul
I want a witness, I want to testify

How long can this go on?
How long can this go on?

All night long I was howling
I was a barking dog
A-how, a-how

I can’t be satisfied
What you want me to do?
I want a witness, I want to testify
How long can this go on?
How long can this go on?

All night long I was howling
I was a barking dog
I want a witness, I want to testify

Replacements – Androgynous

The Replacements are a band that deserved to be heard. I always thought they should have been in the spotlight just as much as R.E.M. I always looked at them as the Stones to R.E.M’s Beatles. They didn’t help themselves though… as they tended to self-sabotage many breaks they received.

Paul Westerberg was one of the best songwriters of the 1980s. They had more of a timeless sound than many of their peers until their last albums. You could listen to this album Let It Be and think it comes from any decade and that is what Westerberg wanted.

This song was way ahead of the curve on the subject matter. It was released in 1984. Their manager Peter Jesperson for a brief time worked for R.E.M. and the two bands were friends. When he came back to the Replacements he had a couple of Peter Bucks (guitar player for R.E.M.) guitars. Buck came by to get them and used that as an excuse to hit the clubs with Westerberg.

Westerberg and Buck even talked about having Buck produce this album. As Buck and Westerberg were drunkenly hitting the bars they decided to have some fun and wear loud makeup and women’s clothes for a laugh. It nearly got them into a bar fight with some less-liberal locals.

A girl called them androgynous, which was the first time Westerberg heard the word. He looked it up and based the song around it. The song is about Dick and Jane who don’t stick to traditional gender norms.

An artist in the movement for transgender rights was Laura Jane Grace, who performed this song with Miley Cyrus and Joan Jett at a benefit for The Happy Hippie Foundation, which encourages young people to accept others without judgment.

The Crash Test Dummies and Joan Jett have covered this song.

Androgynous

Here come Dick, he’s wearing a skirt
Here comes Jane, you know she’s sporting a chain
Same hair, revolution
Same build, evolution
Tomorrow who’s gonna fuss

And they love each other so
Androgynous
Closer than you know, love each other so
Androgynous

Don’t get him wrong and don’t get him mad
He might be a father, but he sure ain’t a dad
And she don’t need advice that’ll center her
She’s happy with the way she looks
She’s happy with her gender

And they love each other so
Androgynous
Closer than you know, love each other so
Androgynous

Mirror image, see no damage
See no evil at all
Kewpie dolls and urine stalls
Will be laughed at
The way you’re laughed at now

Now, something meets boy, and something meets girl
They both look the same
They’re overjoyed in this world
Same hair, revolution
Unisex, evolution
Tomorrow who’s gonna fuss

And tomorrow Dick is wearing pants
Tomorrow Janie’s wearing a dress
Future outcasts and they don’t last
And, today, the people dress the way that they please
The way they tried to do in the last centuries

And they love each other so
Androgynous
Closer than we know, love each other so
Androgynous

The Godfathers

I’ve heard of this band but CB (Cincinnati Babyhead) turned me on to them…and when that happens great music comes out of it. I listened to their first real album Birth, School, Work, Death and it was fantastic. I then skipped around and listened to some songs throughout their career. Super band… they have a tough, rought Katie bar the door… no-holds-barred sound. I hear some Who, Kinks, Small Faces, Sloan, and other bands in them.

The main reason I like them…the hooks. They know how to develop and use great hooks in the right places. While you have the hooks and melodies you also have the super-aggressive anger riding on top of everything. They mix it perfectly. In short… abrasive in-your-face rock.

Think of this post as a sample platter…I included some history but the main thing is…listen to these songs. 

Peter and Chris Coyne started the band in 1982 calling it the Side Presley Experience. By 1985 they had removed some members and brought in some more. They also made a name change to The Godfathers. They wanted to record so they found a producer in Vic Maile who had worked with The Kinks, Who, and Motorhead. They released some singles in the UK and finally after seeing import sales they put together an album made up of singles and B sides plus they did a cover of John Lennon’s Cold Turkey and called it Hit By Hit (#3 in the UK).

Then came the call every band wants…Epic Records signed them to a contract. They released the single Birth, School, Work, Death in 1987. The following year they released an album with the same name. Birth, School, Work, Death peaked at #38 in the US Modern Rock Charts.

They broke up in 2000 but reformed in 2008 with the original members. Chris is not with the band but Peter still is. They released an album last year named Alpha Beta Gamma Delta.

Also on the album was this song…Love Is Dead peaked at #3 in the UK indie chart in 1987.

Now, let’s skip around a little too different album songs. She Gives Me More peaked at #8 in 1989 on the US Modern Rock Chart.

Now to one of the coolest titles ever… Just Because You’re Not Paranoid Doesn’t Mean To Say They’re Not Going To Get You!

Together they had 10 studio albums with the last released in 2022.

  • Hit by Hit (comp, 1986)
  • Birth, School, Work, Death (1988)
  • More Songs About Love & Hate (1989)
  • Unreal World (1991)
  • Unreal World (1991)
  • The Godfathers (1993)
  • Afterlife (1995, Intercord)
  • Jukebox Fury (2013)
  • A Big Bad Beautiful Noise (2017)
  • Alpha Beta Gamma Delta (2022)

Peter Coyne:  I would like The Godfathers to be remembered as a great British rock & roll band who made some fantastic singles & classic albums – right from the start to the very end. I would also like us to be remembered as a brilliant, kick ass live band who brought a lot of pleasure to punters all round the world. On my gravestone you can chisel “He came, he saw, he’s gone – awopbopalubopalopbamboom!”

Peter Coyne:  I would have liked to have been in The Beatles circa ’61 during their Hamburg period. All that black leather gear they wore, quiffs, speed, girls with peroxide blonde hair, seedy clubs, high energy rock & roll & exotic, neon night life would have suited me fine!! Beatlemania & their psychedelic era was ace too. Fab4 FOREVER! X

Now one for the road…Unreal World was their highest charting song in North America. It peaked at #6 in the US Modern Rock Chart.

Unreal World

I heard women crying everywhere
Babies born and no one cares
People sleeping on the ground
See the rain come falling down
There’s decisions to be made
There has to be some give and take
For this the road we walk along
Is no the road we started on
Have you heard the full time score
We’re living under Murphy’s Law

I’ve been walking ‘cross vast empty spaces I feel
I’ve been looking for one face I know that is real
I’ve been walking ‘cross vast empty spaces

Let’s talk about the way I feel
The whole wide world’s become unreal

Time’s like money it’s soon spent
Let’s talk about the government
They’re selling England by the gram
We’re stranded in the strangest land
There’s not enough to go around
No one knows what’s going down
Nothing ventured nothing gained
Why should we feel so ashamed
‘Cause every dog must have it’s day
And I refuse to be your slave

I’ve been walking ‘cross vast empty spaces I feel
I’ve been looking for one face I know that is real
I’ve been walking ‘cross vast empty spaces

Let’s talk about the way I feel
The whole wide world’s become unreal
Let’s talk about the way I feel
The whole wide world’s become unreal

London’s mourning skies turned black
They’ve gone too far we can’t turn back
Free the ravens from the tower
We’ve yet to have our finest hour
Don’t believe the news at ten
That happy days are here again
Where’s the Union Jack and Jill
‘Cause we should not be standing still
Listen to me understand
A hungry man’s an angry man

Let’s talk about the way I feel
The whole wide world’s become unreal
Let’s talk about the way I feel
The whole wide worl’ds become unreal