I was researching my post on the RMS Lusitania for my other blog (oldsteamships.blog) today, and I stumbled across this Woody Guthrie song. I had never heard it before, and I’m certainly not a Woody Guthrie expert. I know his more famous songs and his enormous influence on Bob Dylan and others, but somehow this song, sometimes listed simply as “The Great Ship,” had escaped me. The song is about the Lusitania, and hearing it while preparing a post about the ship made the two stories fit together naturally. He did conflate the Lusitania and Titanic in one line: “Felt the iceberg and shock.” No iceberg with the Lusitania, just a U-Boat and a torpedo.
The melody and title have roots in an earlier folk ballad usually associated with the Titanic. William and Versey Smith recorded “When That Great Ship Went Down” in 1927, and versions of the song had circulated for years before that. Woody often worked in that folk tradition, taking familiar melodies and structures and reshaping them around another event. His version changes the ship and much of the story, turning an older disaster ballad into a remembrance of the Lusitania.
Guthrie sings the song from the viewpoint of someone aboard the sinking liner. He describes frightened passengers, mothers and children, the cold ocean mist, and a final kiss between two people who know they may not survive. Then he names the ship directly: the Lusitania, once famous throughout the world, was sunk on May 7, 1915. Guthrie does not fill the song with historical details. He makes it personal and lets the passengers tell the story. That is what makes it work.
Guthrie recorded the song during a group of sessions made for Moses Asch in 1944 with Cisco Houston and Sonny Terry. Those recordings were not originally arranged as conventional albums, which is one reason his catalog can be a little confusing. The performance later appeared on This Land Is Your Land: The Asch Recordings, Volume 1, and another version was included in the 2012 Smithsonian Folkways collection Woody at 100. A home recording from around 1951 was also released much later as part of the archival Woody at Home collection.
When That Great Ship Went Down
Lusitania was her name
And great was her fame
And great was the shame
When this great ship went down
On the seventh day of May
In the nineteen fifteen
This good ship sailed high
And the good ship went down
I looked at my clock
Felt the iceberg and shock
Felt the whole ship a-rockin’
When this good ship went down
Lusitania was her name
And great was her fame
And great was her shame
When this good ship went down
That explosion aside
My face white with fright
I know that death was my plight
When this great ship went down
All my friends seemed numb to smile
I saw mother and child
I saw the cold waves run wild
When this great ship went down
I felt so sad to know
That this high leaping foam
Would now be my home
When this great ship went down
Told my sweetheart we’d kiss
Our last earthly kiss
In this cold ocean mist
When this great ship goes down
Lusitania was her name
And great was her fame
And great was her shame
When this good ship went down
Speak a prayer in my heart
For you souls of depart
You be torn not apart
When this great ship goes down
Speak a prayer in my heart
For you souls of depart
You be torn not apart
When this great ship goes down
Lusitania was her name
And great was her fame
And great was the shame
When this good ship went down
Lusitania was her name
And great was her fame
And great was the shame
When this great ship went down
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I thought I knew a fair number of Woody’s songs, but that home recording album, well seems I never got round to listening. Even though I am pretty sure Billy Bragg did some of those songs. So this is new to my ears. Thanks that was enjoyable and great tie in with your ships post! Probably it’s own sub genre, songs about ships that went down.
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Yes…it kind of worked out perfectly…I didn’t know how popular this was among Woody fans…I like how they would take a song and redo it into something else.
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Beyond This Land Is Your Land, I don’t know any other Woodie Guthrie songs.
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I know a little Jim…but not much.
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so interesting, for some reason i’ve recently been thinking of a song that we used to sing in elementary school choir, called ‘when the great ship went down.’ a different song, about the titanic, and we used to sing it with enthusiasm, hand motions and all. such an odd and random choice, but we loved it and now i wonder if the music teacher loved that old song.
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This one was about the Titanic…and I don’t know Beth if he changed the melody of it. Now you have me wondering!
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oh, i thought it was about both ships combined
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The original was about Titanic only…Guthrie made his verison about the Lusitania…but you know what Beth? You are correct…when he mentioned iceberg…he put the Titanic in as well.
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here it is! with an extra verse i didn’t know and two different versions:
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Wow! Thanks Beth…I was looking for it as well. She called it The Titanic Song and the other has a different name…this is really cool…thank you again! I hate unanswered questions…
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School music class- such oddball and out-of-time songs, in both senses of the word. We had ancient blue-grey tattered song books that were part of the curriculum, so no straying. I vaguely recall one called ‘Minka;’ singing that with my discordant classmates put me off choirs for life!
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like others seem to say here, I know his name but not much of his music really, so this was new to me. Definitely has the feeling of a rough demo but you can tell there’s a good song full of emotion in there somewhere, though this version, his delivery seems a bit wooden and the guitar not quite fully realized.
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Yea it was a quick recording…and I thought…what the hell…it ties in nicely lol.
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it was a great tie-together for the two blogs
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What a great man. Never be another.
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Hadn’t heard this one, thanks, Max!
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I felt so sad to knowThat this high leaping foamWould now be my home
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Yea…thats a powerful line
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I know very little of Woody Guthrie’s music so, no, I haven’t heard this before. But I can imagine him by a campfire, on the outskirts of a beach, lean and hungry, playing it on the fly for his fellow hobos.
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Yes…that is the perfect atmosphere.
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Woody had a huge catalogue. Some of Wilco/Billy Bragg’s ‘Mermaid Avenue’ takes are pretty decent. ‘California Stars,’ for instance.
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Those albums are fantastic obb. Good response. I can hear a Max take on that cut. beautiful song. a fave.
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Yes, ‘Cal S’ is one of my faves too.
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While I was aware of his connection to Dylan and his son Arlo, I’ve only heard a couple of Woody Guthrie songs to date. “Great Ship” wasn’t among them. The thought of finding yourself on a sinking ship far away from the next shore is pretty frightening!
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Yes it is! I thought this song was cool and it tied in nicely.
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Cool choice Max. I get locked into Woody and let him take me. Kind of a weird guy but I like him. What a life he had.
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He was out there…yea I liked him as well…the hobo life in some parts.
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Im a bit of a Woody freak I think I mentioned that to you before.
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